tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post8961515173734543008..comments2010-02-26T13:23:14.644-05:00mikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978313265796058909noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-10735140100375398202010-02-26T13:23:14.644-05:002010-02-26T13:23:14.644-05:00Maybe we are simply cells on one stupendous body universe...and we know how it goes when a cell decides to go its own way. It changes things. There are two oppositions in message going on though: think for yourself and follow the structure. Well, we know how following the structure goes...has gone...will predictably go. Even as both are interdependent, I wonder about the subtitles. What makes one self say this is nuts and another self say, I&#39;ve found the way.<br /><br />I am not convinced to say unequivocally that an animal does not have some sense of self, but might go as far as perhaps to say not &quot;self reflection&quot;. Clearly, an animal, like ourselves, shows evidence of disposition aside from instinct/mechanism. Maybe animals think in hieroglyphics or something. Who knows. <br /><br />The Karl Persson image is rather gruesome. If one were able to actually paint a portrait of the demand of self, that&#39;d probably be the one.<br /><br /><br />Blessings, Mike~Nahnninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-47831958798904871832010-02-23T21:06:52.810-05:002010-02-23T21:06:52.810-05:00Hey Willie,<br /><br />Glad you it was a good read for you.<br /><br />I sometime use bold-blue to highlight what I think may be a main point.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />mikeSMikeShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978313265796058909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-17509286751703288372010-02-23T16:06:27.036-05:002010-02-23T16:06:27.036-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.williehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12742902872330285729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-63160455175933757602010-02-23T15:42:22.573-05:002010-02-23T15:42:22.573-05:00Mike - another in a fairly long string of excellent postings.<br />I am wondering about the significance of your choosing to change the font color now and again in your posts. It definitely gives me pause - and I imagine that it is supposed to.<br />Howcum?williehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12742902872330285729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-74605993118534219622010-02-23T13:42:16.969-05:002010-02-23T13:42:16.969-05:00Christine,<br /><br />&quot;how can disengaging from the interdependent flow be delusion&quot;<br /><br />When individuals believe they make decisions to disengage. This is delusional.<br /><br />&quot;it is not possible to disengage from the interdependent flow...&quot;<br /><br />Indeed, however, we have the choice to disengage and this is delusional.<br /><br />&quot;rather the flow is engaged differently - creating different causes and effects. (whether aware of that or not)...<br /><br />It is ALL engaged the same due to contingent interdependence. Although we can judge differences in determining some delusional uniqueness in interacting with &quot;parts.&quot; Because of contingency you always interact with the whole (I sense you may be saying this?).<br /><br />&quot;i do not actively participate with the &quot;pod&quot; at Gaia anymore - so that a portion of energy/form/thought is engaged in a different part of the same never-ending dance.&quot;<br /><br />Individuals decide to engage/disengage with parts, but if all parts are contingent on other parts, such decisions are delusional. Are you assuming that you made and independent decision to exit a social forum? But that social forum is contingent on other &quot;parts&quot; which are contingent on other parts, etc, etc...<br /><br />Essentially, when you go deep into this rabbit hole, you&#39;ll see that you never left anything at all. This is what I mean by delusional.<br />If &quot;you&quot; are contingent then &quot;you&quot; have essentially decided nothing at all...ever.<br />And this applies to everything I do or do not do here or anywhere else. In this &quot;flow&quot; no decisions are made by &#39;individuals.&#39;<br /><br />Thanks!<br />mikeSMikeShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978313265796058909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-23256616470320044132010-02-23T13:02:44.870-05:002010-02-23T13:02:44.870-05:00No One,<br /><br />Thanks!<br />mikeSMikeShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978313265796058909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-19971532918003548152010-02-23T12:07:39.956-05:002010-02-23T12:07:39.956-05:00hi mike<br /><br />how can disengaging from the interdependent flow be delusion ... it is not possible to disengage from the interdependent flow... rather the flow is engaged differently - creating different causes and effects. (whether aware of that or not)... so for example - i do not actively participate with the &quot;pod&quot; at Gaia anymore - so that a portion of energy/form/thought is engaged in a different part of the same never-ending dance.<br /><br />and not only are we interdependent in our humanmess - we are entirely interdependent on everything that has elemental form (and therefore with the formless as well )arpitahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03104673218514262727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-76050199088436027152010-02-23T11:32:42.838-05:002010-02-23T11:32:42.838-05:00Bravo, Mike!<br /><br />Not only are we absolutely interdependent...we are all the same thing. Whatever that is!No One In Particularhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13465987207757191972noreply@blogger.com