<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post8037441526506858915..comments</id><updated>2009-09-23T13:39:56.581-04:00</updated><category term='Concepts of Enlightenment'/><category term='Right Thinking'/><category term='Christ Consciousness'/><category term='Truth'/><category term='Reality'/><category term='Evolutionary Beliefs'/><category term='Separation'/><category term='Guilt'/><category term='Intimacy'/><category term='Integral Christianity'/><category term='Experience'/><category term='Victims'/><category term='Ego/self'/><category term='Finite and Infinite Players'/><category term='Conversations with Ego'/><category term='Hell'/><category term='Enlightened Teachers'/><category term='Deep Spirit'/><category term='Illusion'/><category term='Monetary Value'/><category term='Dream'/><category term='Mindstuff'/><category term='Suffering'/><category term='The Body'/><category term='Consciousness and Awareness'/><category term='God/Source'/><category term='Peace'/><category term='Ego Dynamics'/><category term='Spirituality'/><category term='Love and Fear'/><category term='Fully Engaged Enlightenment'/><category term='Death'/><category term='Inner Knowing'/><category term='Self and Others'/><category term='Surprise'/><category term='Integral Theory'/><title type='text'>Comments on The Peaceful Self.com: The Healed Moment of Vertical Time</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.peacefulself.com/feeds/8037441526506858915/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3719024566754743654/8037441526506858915/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peacefulself.com/2009/09/healed-moment-of-vertical-time.html'/><author><name>mike</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10978313265796058909</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Tcq9eUS-ru8/SY2TUy4EI2I/AAAAAAAAARI/t6F0G3JIBRk/S220/Me+and+Avalon.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-555450994617222063</id><published>2009-09-23T13:39:56.581-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-23T13:39:56.581-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Nahnni,

&amp;quot;It seems to beg the question, howev...</title><content type='html'>Nahnni,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;It seems to beg the question, however, why does the village fear the one who deviates from it? Why does it fear the rebel or the lonely or the gifted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are levels and degrees of fear and maybe we fear more those who do not subscribe to our levels (collectively speaking). Generally I think we fear everything, even, and especially, the concept of love without condition. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;...she lived in a suburb of a major metropolitan area where there is no community, only an ideal, a picture of prosperity and independence without heart or soul.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, our values of prosperity are very skewed, to say the least, and simply perpetuate a deep-seated sense of loneliness and many begin to question - &amp;quot;can this be real?&amp;quot; Then they begin to question the rules, almost to a point of losing reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Awakening and enlightenment seem to almost become a cliche of suburban proportions. A refuge of security before the bills start coming in and demand to be paid. Finding the holy grail where the disagreeable all magically goes away. Until even the myths of awakening and enlightenment are dispelled there can be no real manifestation of these two concepts.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ha! Wonderfully said. &lt;br /&gt;Yes! I want the truth...only just not that truth, thank you very much! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Why should that guy share in my hard won abundance? Why should that guy reach some state of bliss when I have meditated endlessly for it and still it eludes me? The sense of personal entitlement goes deep, deep within the well of this culture and until that is broken down, how can we begin to heal?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, the paradigm of individualism even impedes equality with the ones we choose to love. Peace is always absent with inequality. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;We just naturally assume this world is the story we have given it, and yet, the reality may be as far removed from that story as we could ever conceive of it being. Mass insanity before the mass awakening?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it seems that because there are so many levels and degrees, we need to find the common denominator to serve as foundation. Possibly some form of mass insanity, or at least mass disillusionment, might be order.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Then again, what is the use of breaking down the ego so much it can no longer discern? The beauty of transformation is that while the mechanism of navigation remains, the clutter and debris is, by all good measure, wiped away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Discern what? The ego is conscious of what it gives meaning to and I believe this is why there is the need to compulsively repeat the past. Maybe once the ego stops trying to navigate the direction will become clear. Ack! I merely speculate in metaphor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;We no longer need to be astounded by the seemingly profound.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I take great pleasure in your keen penetration of the games!!&lt;br /&gt;mikeS</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3719024566754743654/8037441526506858915/comments/default/555450994617222063'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3719024566754743654/8037441526506858915/comments/default/555450994617222063'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peacefulself.com/2009/09/healed-moment-of-vertical-time.html?showComment=1253727596581#c555450994617222063' title=''/><author><name>MikeS</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10978313265796058909</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Tcq9eUS-ru8/SY2TUy4EI2I/AAAAAAAAARI/t6F0G3JIBRk/S220/Me+and+Avalon.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.peacefulself.com/2009/09/healed-moment-of-vertical-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-8037441526506858915' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3719024566754743654/posts/default/8037441526506858915' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1638059053'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-3197616677955057514</id><published>2009-09-23T13:07:47.902-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-23T13:07:47.902-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Mike~

Quote: &amp;quot;No one awakens alone, becau...</title><content type='html'>Hi Mike~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote: &amp;quot;No one awakens alone, because &amp;quot;it takes a village&amp;quot; to teach and learn fear.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This makes sense, yes.  It seems to beg the question, however, why does the village fear the one who deviates from it?  Why does it fear the rebel or the lonely or the gifted?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A friend from Scotland said the thing she disliked about America was there was no sense of community, but then she lived in a suburb of a major metropolitan area where there is no community, only an ideal, a picture of prosperity and independence without heart or soul.  I think I have mentioned her observation before, somewhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Awakening and enlightenment seem to almost become a cliche of suburban proportions.  A refuge of security before the bills start coming in and demand to be paid. Finding the holy grail where the disagreeable all magically goes away.  Until even the myths of awakening and enlightenment are dispelled there can be no real manifestation of these two concepts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the inherent problem is that we exist in a culture which is so individualized and yet at the exact same time prone to such extreme hero/myth worship that we actually fear anything remotely connected to altruism, decrying it as socialism.  It is always looked on materialistically.  Why should that guy share in my hard won abundance?  Why should that guy reach some state of bliss when I have meditated endlessly for it and still it eludes me?  The sense of personal entitlement goes deep, deep within the well of this culture and until that is broken down, how can we begin to heal?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And if some giant Buddha, or Christ, or Allah or Krishna or Bridget or Isis descended from the heavens for all to see, there would still be the clash of &amp;quot;I was cheated.  This is a false Deity, the devil, a hypnosis, a mirage.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, how to come together and heal, yes.  It all breaks down to trust.  And how do we know this is not some state of purgatory in an effort to learn that trust?  To even earn it?  We just naturally assume this world is the story we have given it, and yet, the reality may be as far removed from that story as we could ever conceive of it being.  Mass insanity before the mass awakening? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then again, what is the use of breaking down the ego so much it can no longer discern?  The beauty of transformation is that while the mechanism of navigation remains, the clutter and debris is, by all good measure, wiped away.&lt;br /&gt;We no longer need to be astounded by the seemingly profound.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blessings of the Autumn~&lt;br /&gt;Nahnni</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3719024566754743654/8037441526506858915/comments/default/3197616677955057514'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3719024566754743654/8037441526506858915/comments/default/3197616677955057514'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peacefulself.com/2009/09/healed-moment-of-vertical-time.html?showComment=1253725667902#c3197616677955057514' title=''/><author><name>Mynahnni</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10423858210960669811</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='10146061028022627719'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='14' height='32' src='http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1857/emclytpz1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.peacefulself.com/2009/09/healed-moment-of-vertical-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719024566754743654.post-8037441526506858915' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3719024566754743654/posts/default/8037441526506858915' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1806972440'/></entry></feed>
