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Chemical experiences can be helpful in breaking do...

2011-12-10T08:10:39.580-05:00

Chemical experiences can be helpful in breaking down conditioned responses (based on specific drug actions). Some say it is the only way. But i feel it alters consciousness but does little for the subconscious belief system, as well as increasing fear responses.

Essentially,at this point in time, I just jump in the fire and wait and see if I burn. Then I study the burns to see how real they are. So far, none have been real at all.

Mike

I am curious as to your views and ideas about drug...

2011-12-08T21:47:58.132-05:00

I am curious as to your views and ideas about drugs.
I started smoking weed like a year and a half ago and quickly became an everyday toker, but just this summer I started getting really into 'enlightenment' and started thinking I would need to cut out drugs to get it. since then I have been trying to stop using, but kind of going back and fourth a lot. The longest break I took was a month around october and currently I haven't done anything for a week and a half except smoke a couple cigs (which I know is worse for you then weed, but not nearly as mind altering) Now when my friends go out and toke I have a strong desire to, but when I do I feel guilty/shitty about it the next day. Um, since reading this blog i've kind of shifted from the idea of using meditation and mindfulness to finding enlightenment to deeply engaging people to do it. I sense that the only way I will be able to face my fear of engagement/honesty will be being sober, because I do tend to have anxiety when i'm on drugs in social situations, but don't really talk about it. But then again 90% of the time i'm sober I feel like i'm totally on the surface and not deeply engaging and kinda hiding my own 'world' from others as well.. I'd be curious to know what your experience with drugs was like and which drugs you used the most etc. On one hand I think i might be looking for you to validate my attempt to abstain from drugs by saying its neccessary to awaken. On the other hand, I look at many drug experiences very fondly, and wonder if I just opened up when on drugs, would that would be beneficial... sorry for the rantyness of this post... also, with some friends I have felt a deep connection while on drugs and have had what I felt were excellent conversations, however, in sobriety I feel like there are more boundaries and I can't open up and say a lot of what I want. Its unnerving that after 20+ years of sobriety you still haven't figured this sheit, right now i'm thinking if i don't see substaintial progress in six months i'm just gonna go all out with drugs. I kinda seriously doubt i'll make it six months anyway. I know you might say progress is an illusion or whatever, which I resonate with to a certain extent, but at the same time, I cant just snap my fingers and end the madness. I mean maybe I can, but right now i'm just trying to engage people little by little until I work up to a point where I am doing it every second of everyday. again, sorry for the ramblyness.

http://liberationunleashed.com/nation/viewforum.ph...

2011-10-04T04:15:08.399-04:00

http://liberationunleashed.com/nation/viewforum.php?f=4

One on one section I'm going under the nick of 'danny".

Thanks for the response by the way.:-)

Really? Link me up to that forum. I would be int...

2011-10-03T06:54:28.228-04:00

Really?

Link me up to that forum.

I would be interested in seeing that process.

Thanks,
mikeS

Interesting. I'm currently on one of these for...

2011-10-02T15:34:01.491-04:00

Interesting.
I'm currently on one of these forums where they work with ya to realize the no-self.
I just don't know....

Hi Jubilee, Very true! It does seem many can, and...

2009-09-18T11:52:50.151-04:00

Hi Jubilee,

Very true! It does seem many can, and have, completely changed their conditioned belief system (I was a drug addict for 8 yrs, but now am clean for 20).
I merely suggest that there is a limited 'menu' of belief systems to choose from and all are indelibly linked to the past.

But I'm just saying...

Thanks!
mikeS

Mike: Over the years I have witnessed many folks ...

2009-09-17T20:12:26.324-04:00

Mike: Over the years I have witnessed many folks completely change their Social and Environmental conditioning my self included. Consider extreme trauma, war, OBE, death experience and so on... Maybe missed your gist. Jubilee

Mynahnni, "^^Oooohhhhh, that's a good qu...

2009-09-17T13:23:34.001-04:00

Mynahnni,

"^^Oooohhhhh, that's a good question, Mike. What say you to that question?"

Oops! You have noticed that I'm teetering on the edge of the lunatic fringe? I try not to let it show, but this attests to your acute penetrating powers of observation.

It seems as more of this becomes evident to me, self-concept confusion reigns supreme.

Good grief! You ask great questions! So how comes you don't have a blog?

It seems we have attributed some characteristics to nature and, thus, the "unknown," in order to make the games more seriously compelling. Of course, that's an off the cuff answer and completely wrong, but I thought I'd give it a stab, anyway.

"365 Tao"? Hey, I have that book! I think I'll read it!

Always a pleasure!
mikeS

No One, Important question and definitely worthy ...

2009-09-17T13:05:37.901-04:00

No One,

Important question and definitely worthy of an answer (without really answering) in another post.

Stay Tuned!
mikeS

^^Oooohhhhh, that's a good question, Mike. Wh...

2009-09-17T12:07:21.666-04:00

^^Oooohhhhh, that's a good question, Mike. What say you to that question?

And what is the nature of characteristics, more or less, that seem to differentiate people? Is it in the degree of socialization? What is the mystery of talent? Or even the mystery behind true autism? I heard an interview with John Taylor Gatto in which he proposed that our education system has the ability to manufacture the characteristics of functional autism on a grand social scale in order to essentially create worker bees by using a reward system and keeping to a linear thought process throughout life. In short, the complete absence of critical thinking, which would, by theory, create the probability of dissension by social/self-reflection which must be avoided at all cost.

It is difficult to impart the complexity of the interview, but I hope it brings to the floor some avenue of discussion because it goes well with your socialization theory of who we become, at least. The boy raised by wolves becomes the wolf, I suppose one could say.

In Deng Ming-Dao's book, "365 Tao", he writes of a social Tao, and in effect says that if one does not render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, one will suffer the consequence.

So, what parts of ourselves are rendered and what parts can we possibly claim as our own? What separates a Da Vinci from the guy who can't draw a straight line and can't think beyond his nose? What is the mystery of what appears unique?

Yes, I know I babble. My brain goes in all directions and most being balderdash, but mind you, sincere.

Peace,
Nahnni

Lovely stuff Mike. Out of curiosity, is there a g...

2009-09-17T04:36:31.983-04:00

Lovely stuff Mike. Out of curiosity, is there a goal attached to dispelling all indoctrinated conditioning and beliefs? What would the world be like, in your opinion?