Friday, February 20, 2009

INFINITE REDUCTIONISM: Mystical concepts


I tend to have difficulties with the "mystical" descriptors or concepts, especially when they endure centuries of translation, and the neo-masters to insist that they are the only valid "pointers." Therefore, I'm one of the few who actually question the ancient masters (and my ego loves me for it!)

This is why I look at the words used to define that which we seek to learn in order to essentially rise above our 'ego-self.' I tend to parse and split the concepts apart in a game of infinite reductionism.

This type of reductionism can be very precarious because, rather than start from the bottom and add up, I start from the top and subtract down. Therefore, rather than microscopically examining the concept of, say, "body," which is very gross and concrete, I start with the concept of "enlightenment" which is highly abstract and mystical (not that there is a method to this madness, it's just more fun and leads to all kinds of neat metaphysical poetry). However, most egos demand results, as in attachment to some concept as anchor. We want the truth! Infinite reductionism will not give you truth....sorry (because "you can't handle the Truth!!")

For instance, I have perseverated to distraction, with regard to the mystical concepts of transcendence vs transformation. Many would argue that they mean the same, yet, the ego-self is obsessed with concepts. If everything is nothing but conceptual, to understand the concepts that you fixate on is crucial to understanding what you ARE and maybe even getting some freedom from a new and improved definition of 'self.' In following any "spiritual path" you are essentially tweaking or redefining your definition of ego-self and based on the conceptual ideology of the 'path.'

Feel free to deconstruct all your experiences...I do...

Why do you do the things you have evaluated as needing to be done? What life- games are important to you? What are all these numerous purposes and functions you attach to as necessary or important? Why go to work, make money, have sex, be entertained, love others, stay alive, be healthy, etc, etc, etc? Why do anything at all? When you come to realize the conceptual nature of reality, you can no longer avoid scientifically examining the games you play. This reductionism can be a disparaging or rejuvenating experience, depending on your current self-concept.

DECONSTRUCTING THE MYSTICAL EXPERIENCE

How can deconstruction be seen in a way to facilitate a transformation as opposed to the centuries of wisdom traditions which teach that we must transcend or essentially leave what IS behind, since it is only illusion? The "master" knows you cannot dissociate from your self-concepts without great fear and, so, the master provides new concepts for you to fixate on in the hope that these new concepts will lead you to a complete 'conception-less' existence. I contend that the new concepts only keep you more attached to an ego-self.

It seems the problem is that the more I wish to transcend what is NOT 'real,'or is illusionary, the more I make it 'real.'

Quite a paradox.

Thus, the more you seek for the mystical experience, the more you push it away as something you are obviously not 'transcendent' enough to experience. This results in your living out a conceptual belief of having the experience as a future expectation and this denies the timelessness of the experience. Because, as they teach, the moment you assert IT IS, in that very moment the past is dissolved. But this can never happen since it was the past that created a "you" who has the experience and interprets it as "mystical.'

Therefore, in all your "mystical" experiences, interpreted by ego-self, like "damn! that was friggin' myyyyystical!" each experience has the past 'self' wrapped up in the interpretation of the experience.

If there is no past, "who" is it that has the experience of the moment, since you must identify with a past to be a 'person' experiencing the 'now.' The ego-self must, itself, be defined first, before the experience can be subsequently defined or interpreted. All experience is subsequent to an ego-self first being experienced.

Good grief! Could it be possible that you are in a mystical experience right this very moment? Cowabunga!

But if that's true, why don't you define this very moment as 'mystical'? It must be that you are engaged in your ego defined "unawakened," inadequacy in the continued belief that you need to be more or higher than what you are.

The enlightened masters and gurus inform you that, yes, you are obviously not "awakened." But no worry, follow this path and experience your awakened nature.

Ahhhh, but wait....the path requires an unawakened nature prior to the awakened nature realization!

Huh?

That must mean that your unawakened nature is essentially more valuable to you than your awakened nature. Because, if you're NOT who you were when you awaken, "who" is it that has determined that you're awakened?

2 comments:

  1. hi - i like responding to your posts.
    unawakened nature is infinitely more valuable to the egoic self... because unawakenedness is used to define itself... awakened nature - if indeed there is such a "thing" cannot be defined by ego - or grasped by ego - therefore has no value for ego. ego cannot awaken... by it's nature - it cannot. at the very best - i think ego can realize something intrinsic about self
    (consciousness) that is not ego... but all ego can do is point toward it... and that is what we try to do with language... so yeah - a guru or spiritual paradigm will provide the ego with something else to identify with - because ego needs conditions - that is the mandala principle.... and with "spiritual realization" (for lack of a better term right now) the ego does not disappear... it is integrated... it finds it's place and perspective - allowing natural qualities to arise... qualities that tend to get repressed when ego is not healthy and not integrated... qualities like generosity, equanimity, etc... these qualities will either not arise, or be skewed with egoic motives when the ego is still centered on it's own survival.

    anyway... so much for my blathering...
    i like your reduction game and it is useful i think - for awhile - until you become addicted to it - or identify with it - and then it is never ending... you can disect forever...

    oh - one last comment about transcendance... actually i kind of like that word - as i see it - it is an inclusive sort of word - like integration... where some thing is not destroyed or even changed - just included into a larger view.
    gee - i didn't know i had so much to say...
    thanks for the opportunity mike.
    christine arpita
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  2. Hi Christine,

    Yes, it does seem that the ego employs unawakened nature to define itself, but only in contrast to an awakened nature. But if an ego-self is finally convinced that no such state as 'awakened' exists and that there is no need to seek some higher order to existence, what then?
    It will allow natural qualities to arise, but the qualities are inherent to it, as it is. No matter how generous the egoic self becomes it will always be ego generosity. But what's wrong with that? Can an ego-self refine itself into God? Maybe God is a perfect ego? If ego transforms, rather than seeks to transcend itself, why could it not live for itself completely through others?
    The reduction game is infinite and goes on forever. What else would you choose to be addicted to, since it does seem we must choose something?

    Thanks,
    mikeS
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